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Narativ Leadership Story Talks

Leadership Story Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy, CEO of Narativ, and Julienne Ryan, business author, communication and HR specialist, and frequent Narativ training contributor.In each episode, Jerome and Jules discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader and management professional.

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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Wonder

July 06, 2026 • Narativ Inc

0:00 | 9:11

"What is that word for you?"

In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Bryce Kennedy, exploring a theme that extends far beyond space exploration: the role of wonder in helping us discover purpose, inspire others, and navigate career change.

Bryce's story is a reminder that meaningful careers are rarely linear. Instead, they are built through curiosity, experimentation, setbacks, and the courage to keep following what captures our imagination. Together, we unpack why identifying the feeling behind your work—not just the work itself—can become the foundation for authentic leadership and powerful storytelling.

Whether you're considering a career transition, trying to communicate your vision more effectively, or searching for the thread that connects your experiences, this conversation offers practical questions to help you move forward.

You'll Hear

- Why Bryce's story is especially relevant for anyone navigating a career transition.
- How a 90% failure rate can still lead you exactly where you're meant to be.
- Why "wonder" became the emotional thread that helped Bryce enroll others in his vision.
- The difference between knowing your purpose yourself and helping others understand it.
- How identifying a single word or sentence can unlock authentic stories that resonate.
- Why experimenting, sharing your stories, and paying attention to people's responses helps refine your message.
- How honoring what genuinely matters to you builds trust and creates stronger connections.

Resources

- Listen to the full conversation with Bryce Kennedy (Episode 193): https://narativ.com/podcasts/from-wonder-to-space-with-bryce-kennedy/

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